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and running. john boehner is in a box. grover norquist near oblivion. karl rove benched on fox news. and the real action of barack obama has sent the republican party into total disarray. >> that's what i'm talking about. >> congressman jim clyburn of south carolina and eugene robinson on the latest republican fiasco. >>> plus, congressman chris van hollen on john boehner's latest concession on the fiscal cliff. michael eric dyson and donna genteel-o'donnell on the political fallout. howard dean on chris christie's big decision on the obama care exchange. and apple's ceo breaks big news to nbc's brian williams. >> next year, we will do one of our existing mac lines in the united states. >> tonight, a story of economic patriotism in an era of bain capital with e.j. dionne. good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. the reality start to set in on members of the republican party. republican senator jim demint of south carolina is leaving kplil capitol hill to become president of the heritage foundation. don't cry for demint. the out-going president of the heritage fo
. john boehner gained strong backing of the house gop. they actually say that the speaker's more powerful today than he has been since he became speaker two years ago. >> well, that's exactly the opposite of what we were discussing on the set yesterday with matt lewis. >> yeah. i guess one question is, is that story there for a purpose, which is to make him appear stronger, and also, is he strong in relation to the offer that's on the table, which is an offer that does not reflect compromise yet? >> well, he is strong, i think, as long as he's not seen as bowing down and caving in to the president. i will tell you, there are conservatives dair a s -- erick who is trying to get him removed as speaker, saying they only need 16 votes to drive john boehner out of time. >> that's kind of my point. >> a situation described as very fluid. >> how many degrees of freedom does he have from where he is now and who's holding the pen when they sign those letters? >> yeah, i don't think he's got a lot of freedom. harold, what do you think? >> i hope he stays strong for the simple reason that if and whe
. as soon as you see john boehner talk for obama it doesn't matter. the market seems to come off of that news. traders have got to look out if there's a joint announcement, chances are they're close to a deal, we will see the market higher. look out for that. dave: let's get off of stocks and deal with oil. we see oil slipping a bit and you see a point at which you might stop and that is $84.50. that is the point we have got to look at coming in next week as the starting point for this drop. phil: we have come down to that range several times over the last few weeks and that is when you had highest level supply out there and you didn't really have much geopolitical risk. we start to come back to that mode so we will scale back to that level before things heat up in the middle east and we have supply crunches due to the cold weather ahead of us. >> next week we have the final fit meeting of the year. the jobs report and everything we have been seeing. phil: we will see the fed continue on the same path of that they may just maturities they are going to look at purchasing. that is
. >>> also, later on, did you hear john boehner today? >> four days ago we offered a serious proposal based on testimony of president clinton's former chief of staff. since then, there's been to counteroffer from the white house. instead, reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. >> former presidential candidate and vermont governor howard dean says bring it on. going over the fiscal cliff will actually help america. he's going to make his case, very bold statement there, to someone whose company will be decimated by the spending cuts to defense companies. you do not want to miss this confrontation. ricans are alwayso work hard for a better future. since ameriprise financial was founded back in 1894, they've been committed to putting clients first. helping generations through tough times. good times. never taking a bailout. there when you need them. helping millions of americans over the centuries. the strength of a global financial leader. the heart of a one-to-one relationship. together for your fu
is refusing to sit down with republicans, he did talk to speaker john boehner this afternoon, and the white house is talking to federal agencies, warning them to get ready to go over the cliff. with more on this, congressman tom mcclintock of california. a member of the budget committee. if you for joining us today. you know, we heard about this telephone call between speaker boehner and the president. you think anything will come of that? >> the president has been very clear. he is hell-bent to raise taxes massively on those very wealthy folks made making over $250,000. bearer 80% of small businesses, in and exactly the time when we are depending on them to create two thirds of the new jobs in our country desperately needs. gerri: the republicans are in the way of a settlement. i want to hear what he said today. here is the president. >> we can probably solve this in a week. it is not that tough. but we need that conceptual breakthrough that says that we need to do a balanced plan. but that is what is best for the economy. that is what the american people voted for and how we will get it o
. >>> john boehner says he wants to negotiate directly with president obama. he has asked that senate leaders and house minority leader nancy pelosi be excluded from future talks. >>> well, the closely-watched monthly unemployment report released this morning was better than expected. the economy added 146,000 jobs in november and the unemployment rate fell to a four-year low of 7.7%. coming up at 7:15, how this morning's job report impacts thefully negotiation -- impacts the fiscal cliff negotiation. >>> a youth group visiting florida got robbed. the group made of you of 24 teenagers and said they were eating in a restaurant in fort lauderdale, florida about an hour after they arrived for a weekend youth conference. they say thieves stole $12,000 cash. one member of the group was able to have money wired to them. so they were able to spend last night in a hotel. we have no word yet if that group will return to oakland today. >>> funeral services will be held this weekend for two teenaged girs shot to death in oakland last month. funeral services will be held for ra chef at cooper's -- raquel
payments. >>> now to the really big financial story, the fiscal cliff. house speaker john boehner says president obama has wasted another week by not making a real proposal. meanwhile, republicans are divided and senator rand paul on this show last night may have made the most constructive proposal of all. >> i'm happy not to filibuster it. i will announce tonight on your show i will work with harry reid to let him pass his big old tax hike with a simple majority if that's what harry reid wants. then they will be the party of high taxes and they can own it. >> all right. without that kind of republican strategic retreat, the december 31st deadline is not likely to be met. in today's jobs report it was positive and it beat the street and stocks went up. how do we move 150,000 jobs per month up to 300,000 which would be a real recovery? first up breaking news out of the supreme court this afternoon, the nation's highest court agreed to take up the explosive issue of same-sex marriage, agreeing to hear challenges to the federal defense of marriage act and california's proposition 8. nbc's
and connecticut. christie met with president obama at the white house first, then with house speaker john boehner at the capital. at a senate hearing thursday, senator charles schumer of new york presented his case for rebuilding the storm zone. "new york has no choice, we have to adapt. new york and new jersey are a waterfront region in the path of violent new weather realities." president obama meanwhile is seeking $50 billion from congress for emergency aid for 11 states with storm damage. the improving housing market is turning into a wealth builder for americans. according to the federal reserve, financial wealth in american households grew to $64 trillion, up $1.7 trillion during the 3rd quarter. here's how that happened: the value of real estate rose $300 billion, while stocks climbed $520 billion. economists have said an increase in wealth translates into consumer spending. the report from the fed also shows americans cut debt by 2% last quarter. space exploration technologies, better known as space x, has landed a big - and much desired - new customer this week: the u.s. air force. the p
. the latest we've learned, president obama and house speaker john boehner have spoken by phone. no word on what they discussed or whether there are any meetings planned, but just the fact that they're talking seems to be progress these days here on capitol hill. >> we'll take that. tracie potts for us in washington. tracie, thanks. >>> egypt state television is reporting at least five people were killed in overnight flashes between supporters and opponents of egyptian president mohammed morsi. the street battles were the most violent since egypt's latest crisis erupted two weeks ago where morsi assumed near absolute power. the opposition is vowing more protests later today. >>> this morning, two australian radio hosts are apologizing for a prank call that's getting worldwide attention. it was made to the hospital where kate is being treated for acute morning sick sentencesness. anna bell roberts is with us. >> reporter: good morning, lynn. that's right. the latest on kate's condition is that she will remain in hospital. we're not quite sure for how much longer, but she is said to be doi
john boehner, has there been any follow-up that we know of? are they talking on the phone? are they gearing up for an actual meeting? john boehner staying in town while this crisis continues. >> reporter: that's right, wolf. he is. and we are told that no additional calls, no further discussions that we are aware of. there was that call, and that came after a lot of criticism on the white house that the president was not negotiating face-to-face with john boehner. but what we're seeing here is this strategy that the president has employed before where instead of sitting down with republicans, he takes his message outside of sort of inside the beltway or brings people to the white house. you've seen him sitting down with middle class americans also bringing ceos and small business owners here to the white house. that's what he is using to put pressure on congress to get a deal. >> yeah. let's see if he invites the speaker to come over to the white house and put some pressure on him. >> reporter: that's right. >> see if they can -- what they can do. as we all know, that cloc
. >> that's what john boehner would say. a lot of entertainers there last night, stars to entertain the crowd including jason moraz with the traditional ♪ nights and roses. ♪ come fee and cozy are we ♪ >> a little elevator music. >> that's exactly what it is. it's amazing how will big this event is. >> it's huge. >> huge lottery to get the tickets to attend it. >> it's a ticketed event. the lines spaishth are snaking all the way around the white houseapparently are snaking all the way around the white house because they have to get in there and go through security and that kind of stuff. it's a big festive night. >> at my house, zero christmas decorations. we are not even putting up a tree this year. >> not putting up a tree? >> that's right. we are leaving. we are leaving town in a couple of weeks or a week and a half before christmas. we are not going to be here for christmas. >> that's fair. >> that's fair. >> we just said, why are we going to put up a tree? we put up a fake tree, never get a real tree. and no tree, no decorations, no nothin
of retreat or any sign of compromise? remember, the president wants higher tax rates. will john boehner try to move the line that the president has drawn? we will have it for you live here on "varney & company" starting around ten o'clock eastern. then we have darden restaurants, the parent of olive garden, red lobster. it says its businesses could be hurt by bad publicity. darden said it might cut hours for some workers in order to avoid having to provide health insurance for them under obamacare. and a rift in the liberal media because of that. it might be a stretch in my opinion and maybe a stretch people saying they'll stop going to restaurants because of it. and a debate on that. darden, obamacare later in the hour. and breaking news from citigroup, too, it's cutting 11,000 jobs, it calls it part of its repositioning. it says it will save a billion dollars a year and the stock is going to be up at the opening bell. hope for the best, but plan for the worst. that's what companies are doing. more than 200 of them are getting ready for the expected dividend tax like next year by paying di
.7%, the lowest since december of '08. beware of the cliff. house speaker john boehner today saying no progress has been made on resolving the looming fiscal cliff. more morial, former mayor of new orleans. we'll talk about the giants and the saints at the end of the segment. you must be encouraged by the unemployment rate coming down and the growth in jobs despite several headwind in the economy. >> it's better news. it's 33 months of continued job growth but make no mistake about it, the economy is still in suspended animation. still not growing fast enough to make up for all the ground we lost. but whenever there's job growth, it's something to say thank you for. to be hopeful that we're going to have a better future sglp one of the things that occurs to me as we pivot to discussing the fiscal cliff, in this country the thing we have lacked for 25 years, 30 years, is income growth. the result it seems to me is that we have substituted the growth of debt for the lack of income growth. what would you say we need to do to reduce the debt growth and increase income growth? >> we need wages that
to have a grasp of the solution. so he is turning to john boehner to say why don't you do what we couldn't do or won't do? this is really amazing to watch this administration. presidents are supposed to lead, take the initiative, persuade others, create a national consensus. what does he do? he goes out to a toy, he goes out to a toy factory and wants another quarter trillion dollars in spending. i can't imagine why people are somewhat, well suspicious of our politicians given that. melissa: when you talk to people, they're so frustrated by what they see. they want to tune it out. turn back to their family in their own community. it is hard not to gauge. >> let's be real honest. that's what they have already done. that's why we're in this condition. we saw the president even lose 7 1/2 million votes from 2008 to this past november. we've got a lot of people retreating and becoming more insular instead of being engaged. melissa: yeah. >> republicans walking around whining about this president instead of doing something. the republicans were beaten because they doesn't do anything. they di
heard from speaker john boehner. we heard from president obama also. we now have a republican from utah joining the discussion. i want to ask you here, and the time we have, what is going on inside of your party. speaker boehner is giving away too much, the tax hikes, 800 billion, only half of what president obama has on the table. still, too much for republicans to be in favor of. >> we want to solve the problem. i am proud of what speaker boehner is doing. there are 535 members in the house and the senate. we have to solve this problem. what i like about what speaker boehner is doing, he is at the table trying to get this done. connell: you are behind your speaker is basically what i am hearing. >> absolutely. he does not want to raise rates. we have to get serious. what i have not heard from the president any details on how he would actually cut spending. connell: say if the president were to come up and say i am going to cut into medicare, you know, i don't know if they double it, but they come up with a lot more in the medicare cuts, are you prepared to vote for tax increases, firs
. speaker of the house john boehner said today that he is still waiting for a counterproposal now from the president of the united states. and we learned late this afternoon that in fact speaker boehner and president obama had a phone call today. we don't know, however, what was said in that call. but reports are that some progress is being made in these negotiations. at least conversations continuing behind the scenes between the top leaders, larry. >> all right. a phone call. that's pretty good progress. many thanks. so let's just ask a couple questions here. does president obama have the whip hand in all these negotiations, and are the republicans about to be blamed big-time for falling off their own fiscal cliff? joining me now is ace pollster scott rasmussen. i just did a little tv gig with scott, who's in about 60 cities across the country. all right, scott. you heard timothy geithner. he said if they don't raise taxes on the rich, they were going to go over the fiscal cliff. but at the end of the day, if we do fall over the fiscal cliff, if taxes go december 31st, will the repub
around the nation. speaker john boehner may have the conservative critics, but the "new york times" supports they have more support than the rank and file before, in fact, giving him flexibility to cut a fiscal cliff deal. the first read team is asking the question how big of a deal will we see? governor christie meets with president obama this time at the white house, and it is just one of the things we thought you should know. be sure to check out our "news nation" tumblr page. you find behind the scenes pictures, and thank you for checking it out and liking our pictures. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] campbell's green bean casserole. it's amazing what soup can do we believe the more you know, the better you trade. so we have ongoing webinars and interactive learning, plus, in-branch seminars at over 500 locations, where our dedicated support teams help you know more so your money can do more. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. our teams have the information you want when you need it. it's another reason more investors are saying... [ all ] i'm with scot
president spoke by telephone with house speaker john boehner. no specifics on what they said to each other, but it was their first conversation in a week. eventually the two sides will get down to bargaining over specifics, including entitlements. one idea may be to change the way the government measures inflation. that may sound like a small change, but, as darren gersh reports, it could have a big impact. >> reporter: if the price of oranges goes up, consumers will buy apples and other cheaper foods. we know that. economists call that switching "substitution," but that change in bevior doesn't show up in the official inflation rate. so most economists think the current consumer price index overstates the actual cost of living. that's important because the inflation rate is used to set tax brackets and social security benefits. moving to a more accurate inflation measure called the "chained c.p.i." would cut the deficit by $200 billion over ten years. supporters say the change wouldn't cut benefits. >> if we're making the change to reflect what is the real cost of living, as opposed to a
on chiapitol hill which is why so many have gone home. we know that president obama and john boehner spoke by phone. republican sources telling us they had a conversation yesterday. we don't have a readout on what that was about. we don't know that if any meetings have been scheduled. but any small sign of progress is welcome here on capitol hill. now with so many lawmakers headed home and likely to face the ire of their constituents, we saw one protester in baltimore yesterday over social security. there are a few left. today there's a joint economic committee hearing. they're going to hear from a top economist not only about the jobs numbers coming out tomorrow but also about what can be done to avoid this issue at the end of the year. >> tracie potts for us in washington. thank you. >>> last night on the ed show, steny hoyer explains why he thinks the debt ceiling vote should be taken off the table. >> the debt ceiling is a phone y vote, frankly. and from time to time democrats have made it an item that they demagogue down and the republicans have demagogued on it, as well. the debt lim
: house speaker john boehner. the top republican today accused president obama of, "slow walking", the economy to the edge of the cliff. he repeated his call for the president to send congress a plan that can pass both houses of congress. tax rates are the major sticking point. the president wants to raise them for america's highest earners, house republicans strongly oppose: >> instead of reforming the tax code and cutting spending, the president wants to raise tax rates. but even if the president got the tax rate hike that he wanted, understand that we would continue to see trillion dollar deficits for as far as the eye can see. washington's got a spending problem, not a revenue problem. >> tom: congress and the president have 24 days to reach a deal, before the fiscal cliff's tax hikes and spending cuts take effect. >> susie: mark zandi says "bad things will happen to the economy pretty fast" if lawmakers don't settle the fiscal cliff issue. he's chief economist of moody's analytics. so mark falling off the fiscal cliff means bad things. how bad? >> it could be quite bad, susi
. australia, investors shrugged off strong jobs data. sensex gained 0.6% today. >> john boehner and president obama speaking by phone, but no announcement of any upcoming face to face budget talks. earlier the president told the business round table that a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff could be reached quickly if republicans drop their opposition to raising tax rates on the wealthy. and in an interview on cnbc, timothy geithner says the gop is making a little bit of practice, but the white house is absolutely ready to go over the cliff if tax rates on the top 2% don't rise. >> our obligation is first do no harl. we need to lift that threat over the economy. and now as part of that, we'd like to put in place as i said a carefully designed mix of reforms to put our fiscal balance in the path of sustainability. as long as there is recognition by the other side that those rates will go up, we think we can reach an agreement on the set of reforms as i said that will be good for the economy. >> republicans were quick to hit back. orrin hatch called them stunning and irresponsible, but there may be
speaker john boehner on wednesday while his treasury secretary said the white house is, in fact, ready to go straight over the fiscal cliff. major garrett is at the white house. major, gd morning. >> reporter: good morning, charlie and norah. the president will cross over the potomac into northern virginia to meet with a family who says their taxes don't go up, they'll be happier and spend more money. that's the pr side of this. much more important, the context of the deal, keet players yesterday picked up the phone. phone call relatively brief and substantive. details remain elusive. it was shorter, sources say, to last week's 28-minute conversation described them as curt, direct and frank. no one familiar with this call used such barbed words. it also occurred before treasury secretary tim geithner laid down this harsh fiscal cliff marker. >> is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> oh, absolutely. again, there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest americans. remember, it's onl
speaker john boehner are talking now again after a week. whether they're making significant progress, we hope to get more details today. >> tracie, thank you. >>> breaking news out of syria. here's melissa mollet at the live desk. >> good morning. syrian rebels claiming damascus international a civilian target. they're warning civilians not to approach it. they're also warning the syrian government is planning to use chemical weapons. and regime forces are firing rockets around the capital. 40,000 people have been killed in the country's civil war. at the live desk, melissa mollet, news 4. >>> today world war ii veterans nationwide will commemorate the 70th anniversary of the attack on pearl harbor. pearl harbor survivors will attend a wreath laying ceremony. in our area, flags will be flown at half staff today on all local, state, and federal buildings. in virginia, governor bob mcdonnell will attend a ceremony and lay a wreath at the virginia war memorial in richmond. governor mcdonnell has issued a proclamation for today to be pearl harbor remembrance day. >>> you can see the rider ge
left to stop the u.s. from going over the fiscal cliff. staff and speaker john boehner's office telling fox business the lines of communication open, but it's an empty house in washington. look at these pictures. house members on their long weekend break, and the senate is out until monday, but not before working out logistics for a big event. a private screening of steven spielberg's lincoln at the capital. now, harry reid using his time to take a special waiver to allow unbuttered popcorn in the auditorium. that's what passes for work these days. the president's holding another campaign style event as the middle class families, and with more, michael burgess of texas. congressman, great to have you object show again. >> great to be with you, thank you. gerri: everything's hanging in the banse, economy, middle class income, taxes, you name it, and you and your fellow house members are not going to work. >> well, wait, this is a 24-hour day job, seven days a week. i'm in new york tomorrow looking at the hospitals affected in hurricane sandy, and i feel like i need to do the ground work
. >> house speaker john boehner is to speak on the fiscal cliff negotiations in just a few minutes. we'll bring you those comments live as soon as he starts speaking. plus, former ohio governor ted strickland will join us. he says republicans are not acting in the best interest of the country when it comes to the fiscal cliff and explain exactly why he's saying that on cnbc. [ male announcer ] this is joe woods' first day of work. and his new boss told him two things -- cook what you love, and save your money. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest. he'll start investing early, he'll find some good people to help guide him, and he'll set money aside from his first day of work to his last, which isn't rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade. it's just common sense. i have obligations. cute tobligations, but obligations.g. i need to rethink the core of my portfolio. what i really need is sleep. introducing the ishares core, building blocks for th
planning. also, speaker of the house john boehner meeting with small business leaders on capitol hill where he reiterated some of his key points. again, just within the past hour. take a listen. >> business owners with us today are here to highlight president obama's demand to raise tax rates instead of cutting spending. his plan will hurt nearly 1 million small businesses around our country. that will affect hundreds of thousands of jobs. >> reporter: and guys, there are republicans here on capitol hill who are urging the speaker to cut a deal with the president. i talked to one of the earliest republicans to say, you know what, let's take a the president up on his offer to extend the bush tax cuts for everybody under $250,000 and at least take that uncertainty off the table and then continue to negotiate the rest to have later. some of the republicans are now coalessing around that view that they should give into what the president is suggesting, at least temporarily, and continue to negotiate on the rest because there's a lot of political pain here for republicans if we do get to the poi
. a phone call between president obama and house speaker john boehner may be a positive sign in all of this "fiscal cliff" drama, they spoke yesterday raising hopes that formal talks will resume on how to to avoid across-the-board spending cuts and tax increases. we have been saying this for weeks. they will kick in if a budget agreement is not reached by year's end. >>> a number of state lawmakers had their cars fixed and you paid for it. lawmakers lost the perk of a free car about a year ago at least 37 of them deciding to buy the cars. that was an option. they have been using them when the state sold them. first they had all the cars repaired and maintained at state expense. $78,000 worth of work. >> as a taxpayer, you know, it's my money going to it so it's frustrating. >> doesn't sound fair. we work really hard for our money. >> we do. but a source in the legislature says the work was worth it. the state got more money when it sold the cars that were not bought by the lawmakers but had the repairs done. they got more money for those cars. so i guess it evens out. >>> same-sex m
. have a great weekend as well. see you mondays. >>> house speaker john boehner says fiscal cliff talks remain stuck in neutral. >> the president insist on his position. insist on my way or the highway. >> well, going over that highway and the fiscal cliff would kill thousands of jobs, especially in the defense sector and the head of a defense contractor who will feel that pain joins us next along with former vermont governor howard dean who argues maybe going over the fiscal cliff will be the best thing for the nation. >>> later, we have the former chairman of the council of economic advisers under president bush. he's going to join us as well as laura tyson, the former head of the cea under president clinton. we're going to get their take on the cliff and today's jobs number. >>> also, tough week for apple shares. is now the time to load up? stick around for the apple trade in the back half of this hour. stay tuned. [ male announcer ] when this hotel added aflac to provide a better benefits package... oahhh! [ male announcer ] it made a big splash with the employees. [ duck yelling ]
to the president and house speaker john boehner met but no discernible signs of progress. there seemed to be a hardening of positions on tax rates and possible reductions in spending. >>> pretty stern announcement from capitol hill, one of the senate's conservative leaders, jim demint of south carolina is quitting. he announced his resignation yesterday saying he will leach the senate january 1. demint will head a conservative think-tank now. south carolina's governor says there is no time table to announce demint's replacement. >> a lot of people are questioning this why he will take over the heritage foundation. his salary in the senate is $174,000. he is replacing a guy who, the head of the, the heritage foundation was making roughly $1 million a year. get, got a little bit of an increase. in salary. >> all of these politicians, go on to a lobbying, think-tank, consultant work, all that kind of stuff, they leave for big bucks there. he's considered one of the grandfathers of the tea party movement. a powerful gift. at odd with party leadership. have to wonder did that play a role? t
that president obama and speaker john boehner on the republican side of the capitol had a conference call yesterday about 20, 28 minutes in length. we don't know what was said. that's probably a good sign they are not leaking the contents of that call. that's a sign that there is some negotiation going on. something is happening behind the scenes but we just don't know what it is right now. back to you. >> eamon javers, thank you very much. >>> what can be done to break the stalemate in washington? representative jack kingston is a republican from georgia, member of the house appropriations committee. welcome, congressman. good to have you with us. >> thank you, tyler. >> we had the images yesterday of congress leaving for a long weekend. i have to say that it struck an awful lot of us as very poor sort of pr, very bad optics, if you want to use that term. you're still there in washington. why? and what do you think about the fact that congress went home? >> well, i'm actually doing some committee work but i will say this, that this debate is both inside and outside of the town. outside i
john boehner came out earlier today to say he's waiting, too, on a response from the white house to his proposal. take a listen. >> we need a response from the white house. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. our targets and framework are things that we can all agree on and it's exactly how we approached our discussions in the biden group, my discussions at the white house a year-and-a-half ago, and, for that matter, in the joint select committee. >> one interesting note here is how much businesses and ceos have become the political football here. i'm told that yesterday congressman kevin mccarthy, the republican majority whip, was on a conference call with ceos and he urged them to get involved and tell the white house in all their frequent communications with the white house that they need to tell the white house to start talking to house republicans. so ceos in the business community right in the middle of this negotiation. >> eamon javers, thank you. >>> john harwood has the latest on mr. obama's big meeting with some of those ceos. john? >> the other way the ceos are in
in the white house try to ultimately broker a deal between two very different plans. house speaker john boehner's counteroffer, if you take a look at the headlines from this $800 billion in what would be savings from tax reform. so that is new tax revenue. but not done by increasing income tax rate on the wealthiest. but instead by closing tax loopholes, eliminating tax credits. and also $600 billion in health savings. that's what you'd get from entitlement reform. from reforming medicare, and doing some cuts there under this plan. but compare it to the white house plan, very different than what's on the table there. $1.6 trillion in new taxes. that is two times the amount in the boehner plan, and also, of course, includes increasing those income tax rates for the wealthy. $400 billion to medicare and other entitlements, that's $ 00 billion less than in the speaker's counteroffer and this would force congress to give up its debt limit vote which is a nonstarter for house republicans. the white house saying that boehner counteroffer is nothing new, that it lacks specifics. but i will tell you, z
their own people. >>> president obama and john boehner will talking on the phone about the fiscal cliff. still, there's no real progress. this all comes as another republican says he's willing to break ranks regarding this. tom coburn said that he -- some are looking for a way to save grace as they move in. >>> allison turns reports, hundreds of thousands of california jobs could be lost. alison? >> reporter: and dave, the defense industry projects about 135,000 jobs would be lost in california over the next few years if those tax increases and massive spending cuts kick in at the end of this month. if there's no deal on those, the pentagon was initially told not to plan for the cuts. that's all changed. in the last 24 hours, the pentagon leaders say they are preparing to slice about 10% of the budget. if we go over the fiscal cliff experts predict one in five defense contracts in california could be -- would be lost. both parties say there's still time to reach a deal and avoid those major losses. >> nobody wants to get this done more than me. >> our goal is to make sure this gets reso
deadline. president obama spoke on the phone with house speaker john boehner on wednesday while his treasury secretary said the white house is, in fact, ready to go straight over the fiscal cliff. major garrett is at the white house. major, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, norah and charlie. later on this afternoon the president will travel across the potomac river to northern virginia to meet a middle-class family to make the self-evident point if the there is a deal and taxes are raised by about $2,000 they'll be happier and spend more money. that's the p.r. side of this. much more importantly, for the deal, the two key players yesterday picked up the phone. the phone call relatively brief and substantive, though details remain illusive. shorter, sources say. the last week 28-minute conversation described then as curt, direct and frank. no one with this call used such barbed words and occurred before treasury secretary tim geithner laid down this harsh fiscal cliff marker. >> if the administration, are they prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. no prospect o
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